Comments on The Silent Number: Top 7 Reasons to Learn Lojban

For Slawomir, There is a Polish-language website ...

2009-11-01T14:22:04.231-05:00

For Slawomir,

There is a Polish-language website at http://www.inf-el.com/si/lojban/, but it's limited in scope. Realistically, to learn lojban you have to know English!

With only a few hundred lojbanists scattered across the world, it's hardly surprising that it's not a spoken language. However, one lojbanist is experimenting with the Polish TTS program Ivona so atleast you can hear it spoken.

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Italian is ugly.

2009-08-29T21:40:12.718-04:00

Italian is ugly.

lo mumoi pagbu zo'u ienai la lojban ckaji so'usai ...

2009-07-15T15:50:44.011-04:00

lo mumoi pagbu zo'u ienai la lojban ckaji so'usai karsna e so'u karsna remei gi'eku'i mutce melbi

One problem with Lojban is that not many people wi...

2009-04-21T11:22:00.000-04:00

One problem with Lojban is that not many people will take the time and trouble of learning a language that extremely few people speak. If it ever hits critical mass, it will grow. Getting to critical mass will be slow and painful.

Another problem is that it is impossible to pun in Lojban (or so I would assume, based on this blog post), and yet the language is geared towards geeks (who are notorious for making "bad" puns).

That being said, I know there is always some Lojban content at Penguicon (www.penguicon.org) which is coming up the first weekend in May, so hopefully you can make it to that and maybe even inch the language closer to that critical mass by getting others interested ;-)

Are there any non-english learning materials avail...

2009-04-18T06:23:00.000-04:00

Are there any non-english learning materials available on the net? I'm interested especially in polish ones. And one more thing. I was looking for some examples of fluent lojban speech and I actually found none (there are few things on youtube but those are rather people reading some written text or repeating memorised texts (with much effort put in it), not people speaking or talking to each other, you know, just like that). Everyone just learns it or only tries to learn it. Noone actually use it as everyday spoken language, at least I couldn't find anyone. So, it makes me think that this language isn't as easy as you say. But maybe it's still very young language and just needs more time.

{x} (/x/) is tricky for most native English speake...

2008-04-29T12:20:00.000-04:00

{x} (/x/) is tricky for most native English speakers I know, unless they also know German or something. If I'm not very careful, I usually end up replacing it with {'} (/h/) or, especially at the ends of words, {k} (/k/) But then, that is the only example I can think of. So it seems you have a very good point.

.a'o Maybe you will find fun people to talk to. I think I might be just starting to wear down some of my friends to let me teach them some.

Well, I'm not comparing Lojban with the natural la...

2008-04-29T06:58:00.000-04:00

Well, I'm not comparing Lojban with the natural languages, but with the "normal" constructed languages (Esperanto, Interlingua). But I understand, that there is no free lunch, Lojban is really worth it's difficulty.

But I would have choosen a different set of phonemes. I think there are now no phonemes included in Lojban that are difficult for a native English speaker? I would have made Lojban a more vocalic language: diphthongs, long and short vowels.. a bit less consonats..

But I am going to live with and contribute the current Lojban any way! I am trying establish at least a small Lojban community to Finland. There is only Veijo Vilva, but I think he is no more active.

@jusa: If Lojban is easier to learn than any natur...

2008-04-29T02:40:00.000-04:00

@jusa: If Lojban is easier to learn than any natural language, than what are you comparing it to when you say it isn't very easy?

Also, if we want to make the phoneme inventory easier, we should cut down the phonemes to a subset of the Hawaiian phoneme inventory, at most. But then we wouldn't have enough space for gismu.

Hi.I agree with 5 of your 7 reasons. But IMHO:5. L...

2008-04-23T03:28:00.000-04:00

Hi.
I agree with 5 of your 7 reasons. But IMHO:
5. Lojban is not very beautiful language. That has not been a major criterion when it was designed. I have never heard a Lojban song, but I don't think its would sound anyting as beautiful as Italy.
Yes, it may be expressive, but the phonemic set could have been easier to use. E.g. the finnish speakers has difficulties making difference with 'morji' and 'morsi'.

6. Lojban is not very easy to learn. It is true that it is easier than any natural language, but still the syntax that is implemented with the cmavo's is wide and complicated. A year is a short time to master it fluently.

I have been studing Lojban now half a year and at a same time writing a finnish introductory booklet about learning Lojban. My own motive to use lojban is around (3.): using Lojban is computer interface.

I have a finnish blog about my Lojban hobby:
http://lojban-ajattelua.blogspot.com/