Saturday, January 23, 2010

€35 ($50) if you package Yo Frankie!


Yo Frankie, the Blender Foundation's Apricot Open Game Project, is probably the best example so far of FOSS 3D gaming. Nexuiz is up there as well, but Yo Frankie is an important title which shows what can be be done using entirely FOSS tools with limited time and resources when you have a solid development model. It is a testament that Free games and Free content, like the films produced by the Blender Institute's Open Movie Projects, can (and will) succeed!

Sadly, even though Yo Frankie was released during the Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) release cycle back in 2008, it is now over a year later with Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) coming up and Yo Frankie is yet to be packaged for Debian/Ubuntu. COfundOS, which uses the threshold pledge system to create a monetary incentive for a specific task be fulfilled for a Free software project, currently has €35 or $50 waiting for whoever is willing to package this software! Isn't anybody up to the task?

12 comments:

ripps818 said...

Didn't PlayDeb.net create a package, I think I installed it once from there. Can't we ask to use their packaging?

Ethan Anderson said...

I installed it using PlayDeb..

Jeremy Bicha said...

Debian & Ubuntu have so much software in the repositories that if there's a notable application that is not in the repos, there's usually a reason why. Note that the $50 reward has been available for 10 months. See the Debian bug report:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=497859

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/311938

popey said...

Title says 'Yo Frnakie!", might want to change that.

melvincarvalho said...

You could try on : http://cofundos.org

Anonymous said...

You might want to elaborate on that, because it is already "packaged": http://www.playdeb.net/software/Yo%20Frankie!

Ralf said...

Yeah. The problem some packages are not in the repo's is because nobody is bothering packing them. The reason some patches aren't applied is because nobody is making a new package with the patch applied.

What a bunch of nonsense.

The problem is the same as always.
The people that have the power to actually PUT a package in the repository are too busy partying on conventions or blogging about their life.

It's nearly impossible for a contributor to help with patches or packages. That's why so few (like me) never even try.

I mean, take a site like playdeb.
You do realize those guys applied for MOTU status?

Something is deeply inherently wrong with how the ubuntu 'elite' acts towards contributors.

Hell, if you can solve THAT problem. I'll pay you 50 dollar.

From bugs with patches attached that just don't get fixed. From bugs where the problem is a known build dependency that is missing. From packages for songbird, urban terorr, yofrankie, etc.

All the work is done, but the process is just f* up.

And the solution is simple:
- Open up the universe, for free, no hassle uploads, in the first month of cycle.
- After the month, enable that annoying queue thingie.

Ralf said...

And i'm not even talking about the inertia to actually implement a proposed change. Sometimes things get discussed to no end. And then when it's finally time to actually do it. Nobody does.

It's getting so much worse every release.
The people at the wheels just are sleeping and sleeping and partying.

Look at the lucid paper cuts:
https://launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/lucid

18 have been fixed, of which 12 upstream with no effort from the devs. We are in round 6. 18 of 60 bugs have been fixed.

And we are not talking about the thousands of bugs submitted. We are talking about the 100 bugs deemed most important.

Ubuntu is dying. And i'm not an insider enough to see what is the real cause and who is to blame. But there is too much inertia at some levels.

And there are so many people ready to pick it up.

There are teams to work on proper ruby on rails support. But all they can do is have their own PPA.

From an outsider perspective it seems just completely impossible to contribute.

Anonymous said...

2nd that getting software into ubuntu seems to be a black art of
*knowing* the right person. the amount of usage ppa's are getting should be pointing that out qutie clearly

Stapel en Anel said...

If it is so difficult to get it into the official repositories, can't we at least get a ppa for it?

Ralf said...

It's not an PPA, but you can add this ubuntu repository:

deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu karmic-getdeb game

With this key:

wget -q -O- http://archive.getdeb.net/getdeb-archive.key | sudo apt-key add

You'll get a repo full of all the games on playdeb. See also

playdeb.net ..

Paul Wise said...

As I mentioned in the Debian bug report, it probably isn't yet suitable to get into Debian. Upstream needs to be improved first.

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